On the “Reality Asserts Itself” program of The Real News Network, Professor Leo Panitch is interviewed by host Paul Jay.

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Part 1: The Radical Ferment of Winnipeg’s Jewish Socialist Politics: Prof. Leo Panitch talks about the political culture of his family, shaped in Winnipeg’s radical Jewish community before and after World War Two; Labour Zionists, Social Democrats and Communists debated and organized within the Jewish working class movement.

Part 2: “I Think I’m a Marxist”: Panitch says as he became politically active, he concluded that neither the bureaucratic socialism in the Soviet Union or Canadian social-democracy would democratize the economy or the state.

Part 3: The Rise of Jeremy Corbyn and Class Struggle in the UK Labour Party: Panitch talks about how the UK Labour Party moved from being a Tony Blair party of class reconciliation and war, to a truly left mass party with more than 600,000 members that may take power.

Part 4: Is Another World Possible?: Panitch says it’s a dilemma that the gradualism of European social-democracy and attempts at a more radical transformation have so far both failed; Panitch says a first step toward democratizing the economy is to make finance a public utility.

This is a four-part interview recorded in March 2018. Transcript available here.