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	<title>Comments on: The 12 Myths of Annapolis</title>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-216145</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can the author cite the document of international law that mandates creation of an independent and sovereign Palestinian state?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Discount UN Resolutions; they have nothing to do with law as the UN is not a legislative body.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A Palesinian state has no recognition as a matter of international law. As a matter of international law, all of former Mandate Palestine from the sea to the mid-point of the Jordan River is sovereign Israeli territory. That is why a Palestinian state was not created in the West Bank and Gaza between 1948 and 1967 when these territories were not under Israeli control.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Palestinians are not a nation. They are people once domiciled in the territories but who lost even that status when they turned to belligerence instead of treaty.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Palestinians are a problem the solution to which is entirely a matter within the jurisdiction of the state with the legal status of sovereign reversioner in the West Bank and Gaza; viz., Israel.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can the author cite the document of international law that mandates creation of an independent and sovereign Palestinian state?</p>
<p>Discount UN Resolutions; they have nothing to do with law as the UN is not a legislative body.</p>
<p>A Palesinian state has no recognition as a matter of international law. As a matter of international law, all of former Mandate Palestine from the sea to the mid-point of the Jordan River is sovereign Israeli territory. That is why a Palestinian state was not created in the West Bank and Gaza between 1948 and 1967 when these territories were not under Israeli control.</p>
<p>The Palestinians are not a nation. They are people once domiciled in the territories but who lost even that status when they turned to belligerence instead of treaty.</p>
<p>The Palestinians are a problem the solution to which is entirely a matter within the jurisdiction of the state with the legal status of sovereign reversioner in the West Bank and Gaza; viz., Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: phonetics</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-215949</link>
		<dc:creator>phonetics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another thing that Annapolis "forgot" to mention is the disproportionate use and appropriations of resources by the Israeli government. Most of the occupied territories in the west bank are under miltary IDF or illegal settler control because of water (80% of Israels water comes from Palestinian Occupied Territorial sources). By addressing a negotiable agreement on this alone you would be able to fairly negotiate something concerning settlements, military force, and other aspects of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but as you said, it is not the aim of this particular conference.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another myth on Annapolis is the fact that prior to the talks the delegates concerned were deemed disproportionate (Even Ha'aretz claimed the Palestinian delegates as not being unified and the Israeli side as being the good guys because of their "inexperience") what everyone failed to see was that Israel was not there to talk (that is why it sent inexperienced delegates and the foreign minister Tzipi Livni to the talks-a ministerial department that is very much impotent in Israel) it was for show. And the fact that the mainstream media branded the Palestinian delegates as ineffective was a downright lie (the delegates stemmed from political to economical specialists- with 50 odd years experience on Israeli-Palestinian talks between them).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The fact of the matter is these talks will again be held as "proof" that Palestine is not a "partner" for Israel on peace and the death and destruction of the Palestinian peoples will not be heard of in mainstream western media.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rgrds,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;P.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that Annapolis &#8220;forgot&#8221; to mention is the disproportionate use and appropriations of resources by the Israeli government. Most of the occupied territories in the west bank are under miltary IDF or illegal settler control because of water (80% of Israels water comes from Palestinian Occupied Territorial sources). By addressing a negotiable agreement on this alone you would be able to fairly negotiate something concerning settlements, military force, and other aspects of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but as you said, it is not the aim of this particular conference.</p>
<p>Another myth on Annapolis is the fact that prior to the talks the delegates concerned were deemed disproportionate (Even Ha&#8217;aretz claimed the Palestinian delegates as not being unified and the Israeli side as being the good guys because of their &#8220;inexperience&#8221;) what everyone failed to see was that Israel was not there to talk (that is why it sent inexperienced delegates and the foreign minister Tzipi Livni to the talks-a ministerial department that is very much impotent in Israel) it was for show. And the fact that the mainstream media branded the Palestinian delegates as ineffective was a downright lie (the delegates stemmed from political to economical specialists- with 50 odd years experience on Israeli-Palestinian talks between them).</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is these talks will again be held as &#8220;proof&#8221; that Palestine is not a &#8220;partner&#8221; for Israel on peace and the death and destruction of the Palestinian peoples will not be heard of in mainstream western media.</p>
<p>Rgrds,</p>
<p>P.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-215877</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1- Wondering what the person who wrote the third (3rd.) commentor said?! and why did he hide his location??!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2- Dylan -comment # 5- should know that Abbas was democratically elected as the President of the PA. Hamas has democratically won the majority of votes in the legislative assembly, thus they have earned the right to form a government. The PA is different than the government. It is a confusing duality that was forced on Arafat in Oslo, 1993.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1- Wondering what the person who wrote the third (3rd.) commentor said?! and why did he hide his location??!!</p>
<p>2- Dylan -comment # 5- should know that Abbas was democratically elected as the President of the PA. Hamas has democratically won the majority of votes in the legislative assembly, thus they have earned the right to form a government. The PA is different than the government. It is a confusing duality that was forced on Arafat in Oslo, 1993.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-215513</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"Both Prime Minister Olmert and Palestinian Authority President Abbas were democratically elected, but both of them were chosen as replacements for the powerful and popular icons of national symbolism they served."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is rubbish! Hama's won the elections and then the US decided that the wrong person had won. This statement above is factually wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Both Prime Minister Olmert and Palestinian Authority President Abbas were democratically elected, but both of them were chosen as replacements for the powerful and popular icons of national symbolism they served.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is rubbish! Hama&#8217;s won the elections and then the US decided that the wrong person had won. This statement above is factually wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: aitezazuddin ahmed</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-215425</link>
		<dc:creator>aitezazuddin ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;it is sad but true that the US have found WAR and conflict closer to their vital interests and hence they are seldom sincere in pursuing peace.this event in Annapolis would not prove any different.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is sad but true that the US have found WAR and conflict closer to their vital interests and hence they are seldom sincere in pursuing peace.this event in Annapolis would not prove any different.</p>
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		<title>By: Fivish</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-215397</link>
		<dc:creator>Fivish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Shameful propaganda nonesense! Dont even mention International Law or UN chapter 6 resolutions if you are so ignorant of the facts.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shameful propaganda nonesense! Dont even mention International Law or UN chapter 6 resolutions if you are so ignorant of the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Elie Elhadj</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-215353</link>
		<dc:creator>Elie Elhadj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Peace requires de-politicizing the Bible and the Quran&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A single state for Arabs and Jews in Palestine is the durable long-term solution.
Politicizing Genesis 15:18 politicized the Quran; instigating a religious war that could last for a thousand years.
The Zionist dream of an exclusive Jewish state in Palestine is unsustainable, unless the Palestinians vanish. 
Hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in Arab countries peaceably for centuries. In Coningsby, Benjamin Disraeli, first and so far the only Jewish British Prime Minister (1868 and 1874-1880), described in glowing terms the “halcyon centuries” in Muslim Spain where the “children of Ishmael rewarded the children of Israel with equal rights and privileges with themselves.” Sultan Bayezid-II (1481-1512) encouraged thousands of Jews to settle in the Muslim Ottoman Empire following their expulsion from Spain. That the migration of 850,000 Jews from Arab lands around 1948 was due to Arab maltreatment of Jews is an unfair charge. The migration happened during Israel’s creation, when more than 500 Palestinian villages were de-populated and about 800,000 became refugees. 
Islam venerates Judaism. The Quran made Abraham as the first Muslim. Islam is the Religion of Abraham. The Quranic Chapter 14 is named after Abraham and, to Joseph the Quran names Chapter 12. Today, Jewish derived Arabic proper names are common.
Feeling powerless, the Arab masses invoked hostile Quranic Verses, recounted stories of the Prophet’s troubled relationship with the Jewish tribes in Medina, drew lessons from substituting Friday for the Sabbath and the direction during prayer from Jerusalem to Mecca. For thirteen centuries, however, these events were non-issues.
Politicizing the Bible pushed frustrated moderate Arabs into orthodoxy and the orthodox into Jihadism. Witness the growth of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, among other Islamist groupings. 
Had Zionism adhered to the stipulation in the 1917 Balfour declaration: “Nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,” this conflict would not have developed.
The Bible and the Quran must be de-politicized. 
The two-state solution is capricious:
First, demographically, a purely Jewish state is unachievable.
Secondly, issues like Jerusalem, borders, security for Israel and for Palestine, water rights, settlements, and the refugees’ right-of-return are intractable. When Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak, and Yasser Arafat attempted in July 2000 to tackle these issues at Camp David, the negotiations collapsed, leading to the second intifada.
Thirdly, even if a miracle patches up a two-state agreement, the extremists on both sides would undermine it.
Fourthly, the Arab masses will shun a Zionist state. Judging from Israel’s peace treaties with Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994), relations among the Egyptian and Jordanian masses and Israelis have failed to develop beyond small diplomatic missions.
Western democratic and secular ideals and Jewish sense of justice should inspire a single, democratic, and secular state:
First, the intractable obstacles would disappear.
Secondly, a single state will commingle Palestinians and Jews into an inseparable mix. Arabs would no longer have an excuse to boycott their Jewish “cousins.” Economic, cultural, educational, and social interaction would follow.
Thirdly, a single state solution would allow Arabs and Jews access to the entirety of Palestine. 
Durable peace requires the genuine welcome of the Arab masses of the Jewish people. The Jews who had lived among Arabs could be a positive factor. Both peoples share customs, habits, values, food, music, dance, and, for the older generation, the Arabic language.
In provoking the enmity of their age-old Muslim friends, Zionism has disserved the long-term strategic interests of the Jewish people. In Christian Europe, by contrast, centuries of maltreatment of Jews culminated in the horrors of the Holocaust.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace requires de-politicizing the Bible and the Quran</p>
<p>A single state for Arabs and Jews in Palestine is the durable long-term solution.<br />
Politicizing Genesis 15:18 politicized the Quran; instigating a religious war that could last for a thousand years.<br />
The Zionist dream of an exclusive Jewish state in Palestine is unsustainable, unless the Palestinians vanish.<br />
Hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in Arab countries peaceably for centuries. In Coningsby, Benjamin Disraeli, first and so far the only Jewish British Prime Minister (1868 and 1874-1880), described in glowing terms the “halcyon centuries” in Muslim Spain where the “children of Ishmael rewarded the children of Israel with equal rights and privileges with themselves.” Sultan Bayezid-II (1481-1512) encouraged thousands of Jews to settle in the Muslim Ottoman Empire following their expulsion from Spain. That the migration of 850,000 Jews from Arab lands around 1948 was due to Arab maltreatment of Jews is an unfair charge. The migration happened during Israel’s creation, when more than 500 Palestinian villages were de-populated and about 800,000 became refugees.<br />
Islam venerates Judaism. The Quran made Abraham as the first Muslim. Islam is the Religion of Abraham. The Quranic Chapter 14 is named after Abraham and, to Joseph the Quran names Chapter 12. Today, Jewish derived Arabic proper names are common.<br />
Feeling powerless, the Arab masses invoked hostile Quranic Verses, recounted stories of the Prophet’s troubled relationship with the Jewish tribes in Medina, drew lessons from substituting Friday for the Sabbath and the direction during prayer from Jerusalem to Mecca. For thirteen centuries, however, these events were non-issues.<br />
Politicizing the Bible pushed frustrated moderate Arabs into orthodoxy and the orthodox into Jihadism. Witness the growth of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, among other Islamist groupings.<br />
Had Zionism adhered to the stipulation in the 1917 Balfour declaration: “Nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,” this conflict would not have developed.<br />
The Bible and the Quran must be de-politicized.<br />
The two-state solution is capricious:<br />
First, demographically, a purely Jewish state is unachievable.<br />
Secondly, issues like Jerusalem, borders, security for Israel and for Palestine, water rights, settlements, and the refugees’ right-of-return are intractable. When Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak, and Yasser Arafat attempted in July 2000 to tackle these issues at Camp David, the negotiations collapsed, leading to the second intifada.<br />
Thirdly, even if a miracle patches up a two-state agreement, the extremists on both sides would undermine it.<br />
Fourthly, the Arab masses will shun a Zionist state. Judging from Israel’s peace treaties with Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994), relations among the Egyptian and Jordanian masses and Israelis have failed to develop beyond small diplomatic missions.<br />
Western democratic and secular ideals and Jewish sense of justice should inspire a single, democratic, and secular state:<br />
First, the intractable obstacles would disappear.<br />
Secondly, a single state will commingle Palestinians and Jews into an inseparable mix. Arabs would no longer have an excuse to boycott their Jewish “cousins.” Economic, cultural, educational, and social interaction would follow.<br />
Thirdly, a single state solution would allow Arabs and Jews access to the entirety of Palestine.<br />
Durable peace requires the genuine welcome of the Arab masses of the Jewish people. The Jews who had lived among Arabs could be a positive factor. Both peoples share customs, habits, values, food, music, dance, and, for the older generation, the Arabic language.<br />
In provoking the enmity of their age-old Muslim friends, Zionism has disserved the long-term strategic interests of the Jewish people. In Christian Europe, by contrast, centuries of maltreatment of Jews culminated in the horrors of the Holocaust.</p>
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		<title>By: Usman Khalid</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-215288</link>
		<dc:creator>Usman Khalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;India is bigger menace for world peace; it occupies the State of Jammu and Kashmir; refuses to hold a UN supervised plebiscite in that state to which it agreed as far back as 1948. The Kashmris like Palestinins are mostly Muslim but the they are ten times their number. The state borders three nuclear powers - India, Pakistan and China. The problem ha been neglected because Pakistan has had a series of inept dictorial regimes. But 100,000 Kashmiris have been killed by the Indian Army since 1989. They are just as dead as Palestnians, Iraqi and Afghans - all victims of UN neglect owing to an overbearing USA.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India is bigger menace for world peace; it occupies the State of Jammu and Kashmir; refuses to hold a UN supervised plebiscite in that state to which it agreed as far back as 1948. The Kashmris like Palestinins are mostly Muslim but the they are ten times their number. The state borders three nuclear powers - India, Pakistan and China. The problem ha been neglected because Pakistan has had a series of inept dictorial regimes. But 100,000 Kashmiris have been killed by the Indian Army since 1989. They are just as dead as Palestnians, Iraqi and Afghans - all victims of UN neglect owing to an overbearing USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Yargus</title>
		<link>http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/12/01/1457/#comment-215203</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela Yargus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 02:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am just "an ordinary, peace-loving citizen", trying to disseminate what is being shoved at the American people by the present administration, and the Whys of some tings being formulated.  For example, the building of a highway connecting Mexico, the U.S., and Canada.  THIS is not a "free trade" advantage.  IN MY MIND, I see Bush setting himself up as TSAR of this hemisphere.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope and pray that Canada will pull away from this folly, and keep itself FREE, and highly respected.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just &#8220;an ordinary, peace-loving citizen&#8221;, trying to disseminate what is being shoved at the American people by the present administration, and the Whys of some tings being formulated.  For example, the building of a highway connecting Mexico, the U.S., and Canada.  THIS is not a &#8220;free trade&#8221; advantage.  IN MY MIND, I see Bush setting himself up as TSAR of this hemisphere.</p>
<p>I hope and pray that Canada will pull away from this folly, and keep itself FREE, and highly respected.</p>
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