Theres also the ishue of getting the private industries out of alberta, and soon newfoundland. My answer to that is do the same that quebec did with hydro-Quebec. Tax them so much that they no longer have a choice but to accepte the price that we would offer for their raffineries.

I beleive that this is essential to reduce gaz prices in Canada… aswell as heating bills. It will create more Canadian jobs avaible, and will garanty a stable price and economie.

I have more to say but I want to see how you disagree.

This is OUR ressource, and should be controled and should be able to benefit ALL Canadians.

Drlabon: The point of private industry is to be productive, which means creating profits. Profit is essentially a surplus, which goes to just a few, therefore for most Canadians, corporate profit is waste.

The point of nationalizing oil industries is not to make profit, rather to provide good jobs, and keep Canadian oil for Canadians.

“exchanging long-term government bonds equivalent in value to the worth of the industry.”

The oil industry was built on the backs of wage workers (my father being one of them) How can we honestly justify paying this value to share holders who’ve enriched themselves from the sweat of the work force? Not to mention this enormous drain of public funds that could go towards the stated objectives.

lslelel: I do agree, it’s a great myth indeed. Consider the public health care system in which Harvard has done a studay that shows as a whole, Canadians spend less than half towards health services compared to the American for profit system (this is really incredible)

I say nationalize the oil industry, have the workers and general public elect a “public” board of directors with a mandate given to them by the people of Canada. No compenstion to the rich, only to those in genuine need.

The oil sands is a national treasure that will provide for many Canadians far into the future, and will give Canadians control over their own countries most valuable resource. It does not belong to corrupt transnationals.

The arguments about wasteful bureaucracy is a powerful myth that must be ignored. There is not another more inefficient industry than oil and energy. Yet they reap disgusting fortunes, and manipulate markets worse than any publicly transparent government organization could.

The suggestion above would: not meet the objectives (decreased consumption); create a new massive government beurocracy; and increase our dependance on the United States.

I agree, as most reasonable people do, that our planets energy consumption is unsustainable and is causing terrific harm to our shared environment. I suggest heavy government investment in far-sighted infrastructure, tax breaks and direct investment into entrepeneurial initiatives to create alternative sources of power, including increased reliance on nuclear power.

We should all take a long hard look at how Venezula has ensured that it’s own people - as well as many of its neighbours - are assured access to affordable oil despite the OPEC combine’s gouging.

However, another way to make the exploiter of a national resource pay through the nose is to tax the ass off of them or simply raise the cost of access to the resource accordingly. And that ‘payment’ could take the form of provding us, the supplier of the resource, with below market products. In essence a kickback, a practice that has long been accepted within the corporate and business communities.

We forget that corporations and businesses that profess the ‘bottom line’ are not that much different from the street corner junkie. They need their fix [in this case a resource they can profit from] and they will do anything, including sell their executives into slavery, to get their fix. Of course they will whine, pout and scream about the injustice. But, ultimately, their addiction to their own bottom line will win out in the end and they will pay whatever the toll may be. And, if they decide to go elsewhere for the resource, that simply leaves the door open to the long iine of replacement interests we know who are waiting their turn at the ‘wheel of fortune’.